30mm Madness!

 

I apologize in advance for two things. For the first I will be committing heresy: 30mm spindles aren't "better" than 24mm cranksets from Shimano or FSA MegaExo cranksets, 25mm cranksets from Campagnolo, and 24/22mm GXP cranks from Sram. They're not worse, or bad, they're just not better.

The second thing I'm going to do is drop a bit of a non sequitur on you towards the end of this as I explain why half the bikes I currently own are running 30mm crank sets by my own choice and design. But first, the part where we sound like we hate 30mm spindles:

The statement often goes like this; "30mm spindles are better than 24mm spindles. Everybody knows it."

Then why does Shimano, and up until recently and I'm sure grudgingly, Campagnolo, with their unfortunately-named 30mm OverTorque bike crank, refuse to acknowledge this obvious fact? It's not because these firms come from insular cultures, and are therefore hard headed and set in their ways, or anything of the sort. It's because these companies are run by engineers FIRST, and not marketing people. Let's not forget that it was Shimano and Campy that gave us electronic shifting, so the set-in-their-ways argument regarding these two pioneering firms stops here.

Sram? Sram is run by pragmatists. They'll make anything you'd buy. Not a criticism, just an observation, which is funny seeing that I'd argue that GXP is the best bike crankset format for optimal bearing performance, thanks to Sram.

Here's how the 30mm bike spindle came about: Somebody wanted to make a "lighter" crank set---because low weights are an advertising boon---and they realized the spindle was a great place to cut weight. The only place, actually, because anything you can do to arms and spiders and rings on a crank to lighten it would be applicable to any other crank. If you didn't shed grams at the spindle you had nothing special.

They were smart enough to realize that a 24mm aluminum spindle would be too weak, unless they left it a solid piece, which would've negated the weight loss, and so they researched, and bench-tested, and field tested, and soon realized 30mm would be best...

No. That's not how it happened.

Actually, they went over to a bearing table and found that the next "step" in bearing size from 6805 (37x25x7) was 6806 (42x30x7) and that after 6806 everything just got stupid big, like 47 x 35 x 7 big; ridiculous for a human powered piece of equipment.

Bearing availability made their decision.

The dirty little secret in any engineering endeavor is that you design-to a constraint. In our business, it's the bearings. You don't just start making a new bearing standard. Bearings are for plug-and-play industrial applications that go way beyond the scope of the comparably tiny bicycle industry's needs.

So the 30mm spindle was born, not based on any proven shortcoming in performance of a 25/24mm spindle, but based solely on a desire to shed weight. The "Less flexible" and "Gives the rider more heel and ankle clearance" arguments came afterward. None of this was a reason. And the old saw about BB30's superior ankle clearance doesn't explain BB386Evo, which has straight arms and the identical stance of a Shimano or Campy bike crank. The spindle flexibility rationale is silly. You---a mere mortal---are never going to realize a torsional loss due to a steel spindle that is the same size as the input shaft of a transmission for a 1.6L engine.

But is 30mm better?

Yes. Wait...what? Yes, 30mm cranks are better when weight is a major consideration, and with me it is on certain bikes. And this is the crux of what I'm driving at with this blog: Chose the right tool for the right job. If you're a triathlete looking to crush it on flat ground for long distances then a Gxp crank makes a lot of sense because the slight weight penalty is more than eclipsed by the pedaling efficiency that platform offers. If you're an enduro rider an XT crank is desirable. But if you live in a place where there's a lot of uphill, and you're concerned about the weight of your rig, nothing else will satisfy your needs better than a 30mm spindle crank.

 




Gary Mailhiot
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3 Responses

Nick
Nick

October 30, 2017

What about 30mm spindles in a BSA threaded bottom bracket? The bearings have room because they sit outside of the frame. They seem to work really well.

JR
JR

September 29, 2017

Somebody get some wood and matches, we got us a witch to burn.LOL

Dean Henthorn
Dean Henthorn

August 14, 2017

Refreshingly honest.

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